Last week I had received a letter as a response to one of my blog posts that was critical of me calling myself a "Count". I shall repost the letter and respond to it:
Dear Sir,I find it very good that you are a beliver in monarchy. But as a half -transylvanian, who also is a desendent of the Bánffy-Decsey link you described I should inform you that is highly unappropiate for you to use the name COUNT. I can assure you that it is not true, althoug som member of the Decsey family was a comes at some time. That is an office and a title to be worn only during the holding of such an office. The title of count was brought to Transylvania by the Habsburgs and all those families are known. They also have a patent of countship saying that this would be a hereditary title. All of them are inscribed in the királyi könvek. (royal books)If you are interested in a very serious way about your ancestry, you should contact Mr. András W. Kovács, who operates a site on the transylvanian history and genealogy. He will be able to produce something of the proud decsey family. But please stop calling yourself count. You will embarras yourself and your family in front of real transylvanian nobleman. (of whom I know quite some)best regardsOlivier T.
Dear Olivier,
I thank you for your concern about my use of the title Count but I can assure you, I have a hereditary right to use such a title, along with the title Baron as well. I think you are confusing two separate Hungarian titles that both translate as Count in English and Comes in Latin but were entirely different in Hungarian in function and rights. The title you are referring to when you mentioned "That is an office and a title to be worn only during the holding of such an office." is ispán, or more commonly főispán (count) and alispán (viscount). These titles were functional offices of realms the size of a county or royal county and amounted to a governor. These titles were NOT hereditary and were usually appointed by the King of Hungary, the Prince or Vajda of Transylvania or elected by Peers.
The title I am by right allowed to use is gróf, which, incidentally, also translates as Count and Comes. The difference is, gróf is a hereditary title. Once earned, it may be passed down from generation to generation. Unlike ispán, the title of gróf did not grant a governorship or office, but granted personal land, peasants, and honors much in the same way that the Austrian and German Graf (from which the Hungarian gróf derives) would have bestowed personal land and honors. And yes, you are correct, there were times when the House of Décsey held ispán office. But this is an office, not a rank. The title of gróf is a rank, not an office.
As for me, I hold Letters Patent that were passed down since 1300, 1413, and 1497 respectively. My Great Grandfather Géze even had the dog-skin that represented his rank. Unfortunately, he was the last Count (gróf) of Décsey prior to Communist regime taking power in 1947. A lot of precious things were lost during the brutal totalitarian communist regime, but since its fall, it has been left to me and some of my cousins to pick up the pieces and carry the torch for the proud Décsey family.
While I do not feel in any way personally insulted by your letter, I do think it is an insult to my ancestors that fought against the Ottoman hordes centuries ago and earned their rank and status. Perhaps they were not on the same level as the Bánffy or Báthory families, they certainly have their place in Transylvanian history. And yes, I also know my share of modern relatives of many important noble families from Transylvania. I have contacted Mr. András W. Kovács but I don't think he'll be able to provide more information than I already have. Please feel free to look at some of my sources or even travel to the Hungarian National Archives in Budapest for more information.
Best Wishes!










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